[ThisstorycontainsspoilersfortheseasonfourpremiereofAMC’sFear the Walking Plain, “What’s Your Story?”]
“Platypus. Pasta. Potable.”
Anybody who had money on which words could be uttered within the first two minutes of the fresh Fear the Walking Plain season likely struck out when it involves the outlet monologue: John Dorie, the candy-craving gunslinger played by Garret Dillahunt, talking to an unknown “sir or madam,” utilizing his instruct for the first time in nearly a 365 days, and utilizing the occasion to bite on three words associated easiest by their shared first letter.
It’s an irregular commence to the season in some respects. In others, it be the finest manner to commence the story of what fresh Fear showrunners salvage described as a journey from isolation toward physique of workers — hopelessness toward hope — all in the backdrop of the Western. The episode, “What’s Your Story,” begins with Mr. Dorie, a subversion of the genre’s lone cowboy archetype. He appears to be the part, along with his accurate hat and his six-shooters. He would no longer act the part, along with his if truth be told helpful demeanor and nearly childlike surprise upon meeting Morgan (Lennie James) and Althea (Maggie Grace), his first companions after a long duration of exile.
No doubt, John Dorie is a miles state from the assorted character Dillahunt used to be as soon as associated with in the Walking Plain universe: Negan, the baseball bat-wielding antagonist played by Jeffrey Dean Morgan. Rather than their shared excellence at monologuing and their persevered survival in the apocalypse, John and Negan salvage little else in standard. In an replacement universe, on the other hand, Dillahunt used to be the actor who brought Lucille down upon Glenn (Steven Yeun) and Abraham (Michael Cudlitz) manner relieve when. As an different, he’s carving his maintain manner ahead as John Dorie, a role that govt producer Scott M. Gimple says used to be fueled by the conversations he had with Dillahunt over Negan.
Ahead, Dillahunt speaks with The Hollywood Reporter about the John Dorie origin story, the veracity of these Negan rumors, what to no longer sleep for from the season now that the Clark household is relieve in the combo, and more.
Fear the Walking Plain has been surrounded in secrecy ensuing from the inventive reset. How salvage you ever and your colleagues felt about the work, for your aspect?
I’m infected — I feel all of us are — for it to sooner or later air, attributable to I’m no longer appropriate at keeping secrets and methods. And there is so many right here, you know? They’re appreciate, “Oh, produce no longer tell that, oh no, you can not tell that!” So I’m infected for it to come relieve out. I’m infected to search out out what americans think. I’m nervous about that, nonetheless infected on the identical time attributable to we worked our asses off and I’m pretty happy with it. I knew I would enjoy it, nonetheless I’m taking part in it a lot better than I thought I would.
Your name is steadily thrown out when followers commence hanging dream casts together. As soon as upon a time, you were even associated with the role of Negan on the flagship Walking Plain. Modified into there ever any truth to that?
It’s honest a little of blown out of percentage. I was doing this picture called Hand of God on Amazon, a sexy hardcore character there, and I knew Negan used to be growing. I’m keen on the shows. I’ve watched them pretty on a regular basis from the outset, both of them. And I be conscious I had tweeted or did something… you know the procedure former americans salvage a abet of social media and shit continuously goes sinful, correct? (Laughs.) And I tweeted a picture of one amongst the Walking Plain compendiums, and I mentioned, “Correct honest a little of light discovering out for the day.” And americans went nuts, attributable to they thought I was inferring that I was [playing Negan]. “Oh, that’s the compendium that Negan is alive to in!” You appreciate? I did no longer know this! “Negan shows up in that, I wager he’s gonna be Negan.” And so then I started having a uncover at it, and I was appreciate, “That will likely be frosty to be Negan.” And so I did pester Scott about it ample to merit a cellphone call or two nonetheless I produce no longer think I was ever if truth be told in the working, and I could no longer salvage anyway with Hand of God. But I mandatory to. And that started a relationship between me and Scott, which also can need led to this character, so I’m pretty elated about it.
It’s such as you willed this into existence. Pestering Gimple led to John Dorie.
(Laughs.) That is correct!
What were these conversations appreciate after they started occurring with Gimple, about this character and coming into this picture and the tips that you simply had about John whenever you started digging into him honest a little of bit?
I’m no longer certain I be conscious a ton of specifics, nonetheless I enact be conscious him checking in pretty a whereas after your entire Negan thing. I need I could relay to you verbally the expression on his face, simply the kind of bemused thing as I was talking to him about Negan. It used to be appreciate, “Wait, what? I produce no longer know if that’s if truth be told ever gonna happen…” But I imagine that on his face at any time when now. When he called [forFear the Walking Plain], he simply used to be appreciate, “Are you gonna be readily accessible enact you watched this date?” And I was appreciate, “Yeah, I feel so.” And he used to be appreciate, “Correct abet on, something’s brewing, something’s brewing.” After which we sooner or later purchased together, I went over to his residence, I met him and Ian and Andrew, and to boot they simply kind of laid out the season and their plans for John Dorey and talked to me plenty about this character. And I thought they were giving me a a lot more durable a sell than they mandatory to, attributable to I was in, nonetheless I pretended to be hard to salvage. (Laughs.) “I’m no longer certain… let me weigh my choices…”
But you were elated with the vision. What used to be it that made that it is in all probability you’ll per chance like to embrace the role?
Smartly, I did no longer are seeking to easily picture up. For some cause at any time when any individual finds out you’re gonna be on the picture, they’re appreciate, “Oh, are you gonna be a walker?” And uncover, I purchased numerous appreciate for the americans which could be the walkers nonetheless I’m appreciate… I are seeking to be on it, on it, no longer simply hurry by and salvage stabbed in the head, you know? So I if truth be told mandatory to be on it, certain, nonetheless I mandatory a fabulous character. I mandatory to be around for a whereas. I’m a workaholic. I are seeking to be on plight. I are seeking to be challenged. And it ticked off all my boxes.
After we meet John, he is in a stressful convey. He’s speaking about how right here is the first time he has talked in a 365 days or so. The scene items the tone for the model right here goes to be varied from what Fear the Walking Plain has been in the previous. How did you launch the path of of coming into this character’s life at this second in time for him?
I produce no longer know if it used to be any varied than making willing for any varied role. I learned the lines. It is a extremely passionate plight. I appreciate to salvage entangled, perchance to everybody’s chagrin — appreciate, “I produce no longer know if right here is the finest convey to salvage this scene.” I if truth be told salvage numerous enter. But everybody appears to be civil and it be below the umbrella of we’re all seeking to blueprint this thing as appropriate as it will also additionally be. But I’ve by no manner done any trick shooting earlier than. I’ve needed to handle numerous weapons in my career nonetheless I’ve by no manner needed to enact any methods appreciate that. So I did expend numerous time on that. I sought out some guys right here in L.A., I went down to them and to boot they taught me some stuff and the procedure in which to map, how to hump, how to abet it, greater methods to abet it, what roughly issues to uncover for, the put apart you can resolve your hand while you aren’t cautious. So there used to be a pair of these roughly issues I needed to work with. But varied than [the gunplay], I felt very keyed into this man correct away. I if truth be told appreciate this roughly individual. I appreciate the roughly individual who you can rely upon. You bag to salvage him for your aspect, nonetheless he’s no longer a braggart, you know what I imply? You simply feel significant around him. I was afraid; I kept asserting, “Is he straightforward? Is this man straightforward?” And so that they’re appreciate, “No, he’s no longer straightforward.” On story of I thought, “How enact I no longer uncover this? How enact I no longer know that?” But I feel he’s simply harmless. And the procedure in which unhappy is it that that used to be so international to me?
What roughly influence does John’s 365 days in isolation salvage on him?
Smartly, you are going to be taught plenty about John pretty soon into this series. Rather a pair of his motivations are explained. These are precise triggers for me. I produce no longer know the procedure you characteristic, nonetheless there are all of these unstated issues about being a individual in this world, aren’t there? What’s that, ad what does that imply? I feel these are initiating to be redefined, nonetheless disgrace is a mountainous key for me; want to protect, want to offer protection to. And for fogeys that fail at this stuff, it will mess you up. It could well mess you up for a truly long time. So the causes for his exile, even earlier than perchance there used to be an apocalypse, are appealing and profound and I if truth be told handle the boys giving me such cloth to work with.
John develops a rapidly friendship with Morgan, even if Morgan could classify the relationship differently in that first episode. What enact you watched it is ready this newcomer in John’s life that draws him to Morgan? Is it something tell about Morgan, is John a americans individual, or at this point is he simply roughly an “any americans” individual?
I feel there’ll be honest a little of little bit of both of these final two. (Laughs.) I enact think he does appreciate americans. As elated as he will be, being on my own, or as safe as he is of surviving that manner, he also can no longer even mark how a lot he has skipped over human contact and companionship. And I feel he if truth be told smells a pal in Morgan. He if truth be told senses that Morgan has needs, too. There is something about Morgan I feel that happened — it appears to be like to happen plenty with Morgan and varied americans — that folk simply settle on him to be elated, they wish him to uncover at issues simply honest a little of assorted manner. He’s a generous man, you know? you kinda settle on him to lollygag around. I produce no longer know the procedure many decisions you would salvage in the apocalyptic roughly voice of companions. And I suspect numerous relationships you would salvage will be these of necessity. But in the event that they could additionally be good americans to dangle out with, that’d be wonderful. So I feel it be honest a little of both: “Oh my God, a human being! A residing, respiration human being!” But additionally: “Oh, and you’re frosty too? Yeah produce no longer hurry, produce no longer hurry.” (Laughs.) John Dorie is roughly the man who also can no longer hurry away the celebration.
What used to be alive to in shooting the action scene on the heart of the episode, which used to be additionally your first major Walking Plain action scene?
I be conscious it took all day, many of the episode. I be conscious it took three or four varied weather adjustments. (Laughs.) Austin used to be crazy. One day we’re shooting and it be blazing sizzling, the next day it be raining, the next day it used to be snowing, and I did no longer know the procedure they were going to blueprint this all decrease together nonetheless they did. So many walkers, a lot goop. But I if truth be told dug our battle choreography. You would be no longer going uncover numerous [what was shot]. There simply wasn’t time, they decrease plenty out. Alternatively it used to be numerous fun. I cherished that stuff, and we purchased wonderful stunt americans there.
The episode ends in a extremely surprising manner, the put apart the previous guard of Fear the Walking Plain and the fresh guard of Fear the Walking Plain are pitted opposite each varied. What used to be your response to the model that Nick, Alicia, Strand and Luciana reentered the story in this adversarial manner?
Smartly, I knew that there were going to be a whereas adjustments occurring. I feel there used to be every season, some runt jumps in time as the 2 worlds salvage closer together. So I was willing for it earlier than we shot the rest, attributable to they instructed me what used to be occurring: that each one amongst sudden the Clarks were going to picture up and to boot they were going to be feral and varied and horrifying. It is easy from John Dorie’s standpoint, attributable to he has by no manner met them. He would no longer salvage the rest to examine them to. But as a ways as me? What I appreciate about these shows, and it be something that I roughly learned as we shot this season, attributable to I if truth be told salvage continuously loved them nonetheless I simply thought… oh my god, any individual is making an attempt to write standard day parables right here, you know? A delusion. I if truth be told salvage such admiration for that attributable to you can repeat so many different kinds of reviews about so many different kinds of issues below that umbrella. And I feel it works if truth be told nicely. It’s unhappy what the Clarks battle by and are going to battle by this season. It’s unhappy what they went by and what they’re seeking to search out solutions to in John Dorie’s timeline, anyway. It’d be a if truth be told helpful, harrowing outing for the followers, for these that handle the Clarks.
What are your hopes and expectations for John Dorie as Fear the Walking Plain strikes ahead?